[AC-Admins] Trash talking servers / admins

[Pippin Bear]

On Sun, Feb 03, 2008 at 02:39:26AM -0600, Mirage wrote:
> I don't think downtime on lion has been really bad. A few services 
> glitches here and there, but over the span of
> many years. I don't think its significant enough to really be considered 
> high risk or anything.

I seem to remember Simba doing a lot of work on services. and my
perception of it has been that since it's been off the old machine
is that it's been almost bullet-proof.  Even if it does go down for
a few minutes or need restarting, it causes very little disruption.
Many users wouldn't even notice.

If lion has a connectivity problem, though, it'll cause a lot
of disruption.  IIRC the webchat thing always goes through lion,
about twice as many users connect to lion as each of the other servers
(probably because of the webchat bias), and it's usually the hub so has
more links to break than the others.  So any problems there tend to
cause more damage to the "user experience" than almost anything else
on the network.  This is probably why I referred to "crummy" network
connectivity - subconsciously holding lion's connectivity to a higher
standard than the others, basically.

> I really wouldn't mind getting monthly or bimonthly meetings back into 

Some kind of meetings would be good, although I think for getting actual
work done the mailing list and #opers might be better.  If we get things
advanced by a notch at one meeting, it might be best to keep the momentum
going by continuing it on the list rather than waiting for the next
meeting 2-4 weeks away.  I suppose I think meetings should relatively
brief and be for resyncing and figuring out goals, while getting actual
stuff done might be better done asynchronously on the list, or in smaller
groups on IRC.

> -I try in some form or fashion to advertise our network at conventions, 

Thank you for that, then!  The statistics show that our user numbers
were pretty much constant from inception until the start of 2007, when
our user count began a gentle but steady growth.  Maybe that growth is
your fault ;>

Pippin