[AC-Admins] CGI:IRC config change

Scott 'Simba' Garron simba at anthrochat.net
Wed Apr 4 19:59:16 EDT 2007


Pippin Bear wrote:
> Ah, so the web chat thing relays everything through the web server

      Yeah.  It's so that people who are behind firewalls that only allow
port 80 traffic can get on AnthroChat, mostly.  Otherwise, I'd use one
of the Java IRC clients on the web site.  CGI:IRC is the client that
works most consistently.

> default host be changed to irc.anthrochat.net if, as I suspected,

      The default is lion is because the web server is running on lion,
making lion the shortest path.  When CGI:IRC was hosted on glider's web
server (leopard at the time), the default irc server was leopard because
it was essentially localhost.  I don't know why people would change the
default, but that's why the default isn't the rotary.

> That also explains why lion consistently has a much higher user count
> than the rest of the servers, which always seemed rather strange.

      It is likely to be a contributing factor.

> I wasn't aware that the archives of this list were public - I assumed
> it was either privately archived or not at all, and that it was not
> a problem to discuss stuff here that shouldn't be made public.

      As part of our mission statement states, all "discussions" are
public.  The only things that aren't public are things the privacy of an
individual admin or the security of the network.

> I've posted passwords for such things as accessing the mirror of 
> services logs here, and possibly the passwords for nagios.

      I'll run through the archive to see if I can find posts which
include information that should be secure and remove them.

> Personally, I don't like the idea of this list being publicly 
> archived. I don't like feeling I'm in a goldfish bowl, and that I 
> have to be careful what I write because it'll be published to the 
> world.

      One of the things that I abhor most about Furnet is the shroud of
secrecy that they tend to exude when it comes to the inner workings and
discussions regarding the network; things like how they shoo people out 
of #Furnet as soon as their question has been answered and how they 
don't inform their users of any policy change discussions until those 
policies are already set in stone.  This network is for the community,
not for us, and it's my belief that all discussions relating to the 
operations of AnthroChat should be public knowledge, open for feedback.

> Should we have both a private and a public admins list, so that we
> can use admins-private to sync private info such as passwords with
> all of us?

      That's probably not a bad idea.  There does need to be a more 
secure channel for transmitting this kind of sensitive information. 
I've just created an admins-private at lists.anthrochat.net list which will 
not keep archives and will not show up at http://lists.anthrochat.net/

      For the most part, unless someone specifically knew where to find 
the archives, they wouldn't have been able locate them.  I don't think 
they're Googleable yet.

-- 
Scott 'Simba' Garron


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